tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710965.post4449061387749848049..comments2023-10-24T08:07:44.467-05:00Comments on City Slicker in a Ranch Style World: the "bad' kids part 1Chris Robeyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01609702198782134430noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710965.post-17884593186110499812008-04-02T13:58:00.000-05:002008-04-02T13:58:00.000-05:00I'm ready for the rest of this discussion...what a...I'm ready for the rest of this discussion...what are you so busy with? Getting married or something?!?!?Brock Paulkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13165751411638957024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710965.post-79036859090733860972008-02-26T23:44:00.000-06:002008-02-26T23:44:00.000-06:00First of all, it was a great retreat even though y...First of all, it was a great retreat even though you were dealing with some difficult kids. I missed talking to you too, but we'll catch up sometime soon. ;)<BR/><BR/>As far as dealing with these kids,here's my two cents: <BR/><BR/>Regardless of the type of kids you have in your youth group, there should be a certain standard of behavior that you expect from them. It's non-negotiable. It's part of learning that they're not the center of the universe and there will be a level of respect for others or there will be consequences such as not being able to attend retreats that would be quite a drive for a parent to come and pick them up. It's for the good of everyone, believe me. <BR/><BR/>Even street kids show a certain level of respect and make the commitment to follow "the rules" while on ministry sponsored events like pool nights, bowling trips, movies, etc. If we can expect it from street kids, you can expect it from church kids. They will rise to the occasion. Like you said, they need the love and attention and they won't want to miss out on the opportunities you provide to give them that.<BR/><BR/>I have a hard time seeing you as a disciplinarian, not because you can't do it, but because I don't think you should have to. This may be overly simplified-especially because I don't know what issues you were dealing with last weekend-but I look at it like a contract. They make an agreement to behave a certain way. They get warnings (Like the 1-2-3 Magic program we use with our kids) and then there is a consequence. The choice was theirs. MOST of the time-we never get to 3. <BR/><BR/>The other thing I'm thinking about is taking a closer look at the cause of their behavior. Why are they considered a "bad kid"? Is there an issue that needs to be dealt with individually? Is it that they've not been taught how to behave or is it that they have been taught and they're just being turds? <BR/><BR/>Yes, this will be an interesting conversation indeed. :) I don't have all the answers, but we've been in youth ministry for a LONG time and I can tell you what worked and didn't work for us with the different youth groups we worked with. <BR/><BR/>Hang in there Chris. You're a good YM and your kids like you. :)Nikihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11939695756973039908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-14710965.post-74024924853616049602008-02-25T15:02:00.000-06:002008-02-25T15:02:00.000-06:00I'm anxious to be a part of the conversation - thi...I'm anxious to be a part of the conversation - this is a big ministry weakness for me too...Brock Paulkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13165751411638957024noreply@blogger.com